It is our company's apps and sites that drove Apple to this decision. But it is definitely more deeply seeded than the OS level, and I think web developers (a lot of us here) should take some of the responsibility for ruining scrollbars. You end up with scrollbars on elements that aren't even form fields because of weird hacks that web developers are doing with overflow elements or strange CSS anomalies. Like you mentioned, some websites simply don't work or don't work how they should. It shouldn't be this way, but as of right now, it ruins the experience. But regardless of who accepts or deserves the blame, it is hard to dispute that the experience is far worse with scrollbars forced always on. ![]() Now I'm not sure if you blame the OS maker (Apple/Microsoft), the browser makers (Apple again, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla), or the web developers of the websites. ![]() I have turned on "always visible" scrollbars before and it really does ruin the internet experience. I honestly think that this is the main reason that Apple hides scrollbars by default.
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